<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-299445909069613286</id><updated>2012-01-26T20:54:02.346-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Spiritual Experiment</title><subtitle type='html'></subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://spiritualexperiment.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/299445909069613286/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://spiritualexperiment.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/299445909069613286/posts/default?start-index=101&amp;max-results=100'/><author><name>Andy Flatt</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wsp67ZH9BU0/SSXc6g-wo4I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xNoSVDNnuOY/S220/andy2_000.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>131</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-299445909069613286.post-8119025616929753466</id><published>2012-01-23T21:38:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-23T21:57:40.545-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Engaged</title><content type='html'>After dating for a little better than five months, Tina and I are happy to announce our engagement.  We have not set an exact date yet but are aiming for the end of June or the beginning of July.  It is an amazing thing for the two of us, both widows, to experience the kind of work that God does.  It is He who says, “I will turn their mourning into gladness; I will give them comfort and joy instead of sorrow.” Jeremiah 31:13 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is good to have his word as our guide.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1Timothy 5:14&lt;br /&gt;I counsel younger widows to marry…&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Genesis 2:18  &lt;br /&gt;The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone…&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1Corinthians 7:2 &lt;br /&gt;Each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1Corinthians 7:39 &lt;br /&gt;A wife is bound to her husband as long as he lives. If her husband dies, she is free to marry anyone she wishes, but only if he loves the Lord.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are grateful for His guidance and His provision and are happy for the encouragement of so many.  Thanks to everyone who has increased our joy by sharing it.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;!-- Start Bravenet.com Service Code --&gt;
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The biblical answer to that question is, “Yes”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Bible points to both God’s choice and our choice as logical priors like two rails of a train track that go off into the distance never crossing as far as the eye can see, never one rail saying to the other, "I no longer have need of you."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God chose you because he is Sovereign God and has the right to do anything he pleases with what he has made and owns… &lt;br /&gt;Psalm 115:3  &lt;br /&gt;Our God is in the heavens; he does all that he pleases.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the parallel truth is this: When God conceived of the idea of you, he knew you would choose him. His choice matters supremely, but your choice matters completely.  But - Let’s look at God first.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romans 9:11  Before they [The twins, Jacob and Esau] were born, before they had done anything good or bad, she received a message from God. (This message shows that God chooses people according to his own purposes; 12  he calls people, but not according to their good or bad works.) She was told, “Your older son will serve your younger son.” 13  In the words of the Scriptures, “I loved Jacob, but I rejected Esau.” 14  Are we saying, then, that God was unfair? Of course not! 15  For God said to Moses, &lt;br /&gt;“I will show mercy to anyone I choose, and I will show compassion to anyone I choose.” 16  So it is God who decides to show mercy. We can neither choose it nor work for it. 17  For the Scriptures say that God told Pharaoh, “I have appointed you for the very purpose of displaying my power in you and to spread my fame throughout the earth.” 18  So you see, God chooses to show mercy to some, and he chooses to harden the hearts of others so they refuse to listen. 19  Well then, you might say, “Why does God blame people for not responding? Haven’t they simply done what he makes them do?” 20  No, don’t say that. Who are you, a mere human being, to argue with God? Should the thing that was created say to the one who created it, “Why have you made me like this?” 21  When a potter makes jars out of clay, doesn’t he have a right to use the same lump of clay to make one jar for decoration and another to throw garbage into?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this text God is seen as making independent decisions as to whom he will bless with mercy and compassion based solely on his right as creator of all.  God’s choice is seen as independent of ours.  &lt;br /&gt;    Now – understandably this makes us Crazy.  He makes some of us for dishonorable service like Pharaoh and then blames Pharaoh for not bowing to his moral will. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems unfair and yet we are told not to talk back – which just pushes our rebellion against this text deeper into our own psyche. – unless – unless we try… to trust God and see him as one who refuses to gamble with our souls and submit to mere chance but rather ensures that some will certainly be saved.   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God is God is not capricious, reckless, contingent not dependent on anyone. He could do no other than plan that some would certainly be saved. But within that plan he did not ordain that all would be saved.  So we ask Who is at fault?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If I were to maintain the logic that has been established in Romans 9 of the potter and the clay and ask the question.  Why did most of the Jews not believe in the Christ – &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Logically – I would have to say because God didn’t choose them – he rejected them hated them – That is what logic says, but the text goes on to say more than simply that God is sovereign.  It goes on to say man is responsible.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God shatters our narrow logic because his thoughts are higher than out thoughts .&lt;br /&gt;Romans 9:31  but Israel, who pursued a law of righteousness, has not attained it. 32  Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It’s their fault.  Their choice is viewed here as  logically prior.  They determined their own fate by their refusal to believe.  Why didn’t Israel attain righteousness – not because God did or did not do something but because THEY &lt;br /&gt;• tried to work for reward rather than simply trust &lt;br /&gt;• wanted to earn reward rather than simply receive it&lt;br /&gt;• wanted the glory rather than give glory to God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was their fault. Their faithlessness was logically prior.  It all hinges (at least in this text) on their lack of belief.&lt;br /&gt;Both rails of God’s sovereignty and man’s responsibility are seen in Rom 9.&lt;br /&gt;The Bible points to both God’s choice and our choice as logical priors, determining factors in our salvation.  This then falls into the ontological gap, the black-hole question, "How can it be?".  We don't know.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;!-- Start Bravenet.com Service Code --&gt;
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Paul the apostle himself, one who declares himself to have been granted authority by God…  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ga 1:1 I was not appointed by any group of people or any human authority, but by Jesus Christ himself and by God the Father, who raised Jesus from the dead.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;…recognizes and submits himself to the authority of the elders team in the local church and seeks their agreement and backing of his ministry.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ga 2:2 I went there because God revealed to me that I should go. While I was there I met privately with those considered to be leaders of the church and shared with them the message I had been preaching to the Gentiles. I wanted to make sure that we were in agreement, for fear that all my efforts had been wasted and I was running the race for nothing.  3 And they supported me and did not even demand that my companion Titus be circumcised, though he was a Gentile.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paul who says…&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tit 1:5 I left you on the island of Crete so you could complete our work there and appoint elders in each town as I instructed you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...followed the practice himself of appointing elders, (plural) in individual churches.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ac 14:23 Paul and Barnabas also appointed elders in every church. With prayer and fasting, they turned the elders over to the care of the Lord, in whom they had put their trust.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the example he set as a pattern, not as mere description, but as prescription.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Php 3:17 Dear brothers and sisters, pattern your lives after mine, and learn from those who follow our example.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1Co 11:1   Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ. 2 I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings, just as I passed them on to you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paul would not and does not praise, democracy in the church, or congregationalism as it is known, nor does he leave it up for grabs.  God does not desire the confusion and leadership vacuum that congregationalism causes.  He does command…&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Heb 13:17 Obey your spiritual leaders, and do what they say. Their work is to watch over your souls, and they are accountable to God. Give them reason to do this with joy and not with sorrow. That would certainly not be for your benefit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Introducing a system of Church government into a church constitution that removes authority from the elders and places it in the hands of voting church members ensures that the church will lack God’s benefit and blessing in this regard.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For a teaching elder to fail to point this out, is for him to build the church with wood, hay, and straw, rather than the precious word of God.  It is to build the life of the church on sinking sand rather than solid rock.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1Co 3:11 for no one can lay any foundation other than the one we already have—Jesus Christ. 12 Anyone who builds on that foundation may use a variety of materials—gold, silver, jewels, wood, hay, or straw. 13 But on the judgment day, fire will reveal what kind of work each builder has done. The fire will show if a person’s work has any value.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mt 7:26 But anyone who hears my teaching and ignores it is foolish, like a person who builds a house on sand.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The polarization that occurs in a people group where the authority structure is in question and where the use of  authority is required to make decisions and maintain purity, destroys unity and faith rather than building them up as the design of God intends.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ephesians 4:11 now these are the gifts Christ gave to the church: the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, and the pastors and teachers. 12 Their responsibility is to equip God’s people to do his work and build up the church, the body of Christ. 13  This will continue until we all come to such unity in our faith and knowledge of God’s Son that we will be mature in the Lord, measuring up to the full and complete standard of Christ.&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;br /&gt;If you are considered “the” pastor (singular) of a local church, this is a call to repentance and an encouragement to do the hard work of leading your church to change its constitution.  This is a call to biblically empower the team of elders with equal authority and mutual godly, accountability and lead your congregation toward the benefit that God’s truth is destined to ignite in his church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jas 4:17 Anyone then, who knows the good he ought to do and doesn’t do it, sins.&lt;br /&gt;John 5:14   ...stop sinning, or something even worse may happen to you.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;!-- Start Bravenet.com Service Code --&gt;
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(content and engaged in life’s purpose, without having my pursuit of holiness sabotaged by the distress of longing for sexual intimacy.)  But each man has his own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paul is almost-undoubtedly single again - and satisfied.  He is living independent of a sexual relationship and happy, even enviable and wishes we could all be just like him. But alas, that is impossible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paul states that the pursuit of a particular marital status should be determined by giftedness and not be seen as a matter of spiritual attainment.  Paul wishes everyone could receive from God what is required to cheerfully lay aside the human sex-drive and be single and satisfied as opposed to being dependent upon regular holy sex in order to avoid immorality.  However, part of the pursuit of holy joy for those who have not received this spiritual gift of sexless satisfaction, will include marriage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1 Corinthians 7:5 Do not deprive each other of sexual relations, unless you both agree to refrain from sexual intimacy for a limited time so you can give yourselves more completely to prayer. Afterward, you should come together again so that Satan won’t be able to tempt you because of your lack of self-control.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you don’t have the gift of satisfied celibacy, you will suffer the results of unfulfilled desire, if and when you are not being satisfied by your spouse.  Some of our relational needs God satisfies directly and some he satisfies by the use of means and when those means are removed, we will suffer.  Suffering includes not being able to find or create a comfortable conclusion.  It means wrestling and struggling with unmet desire.  It brings us back to Christ and requires growth in our theology of suffering with-and-for Him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1 Pe 4:13 But rejoice that you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ro 5:2 …we rejoice in the hope of the glory of God. 3  Not only so, but we also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; 4  perseverance, character; and character, hope. 5  And hope does not disappoint us, because God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1Pe 1:6 for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in all kinds of trials.  7  These have come so that your faith—of greater worth than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire—may be proved genuine and may result in praise, glory and honour when Jesus Christ is revealed. 8  Though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy, 9  for you are receiving the goal of your faith, the salvation of your souls.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Can, or could the “all-satisfying” relationship with Christ subdue the sex drive?  Can a human being attain this single and satisfied state by becoming more spiritual?  In this world where things are not as they should be (James 3:10) the answer is. No.  Knowing this will rescue us from the unrealistic guilt of “not being spiritual enough”.  It should also cause us to know that  without God’s  provision of a spiritual gift, or a spouse, we will suffer.  The fight for God-glorifying joy, requires choosing to suffer, when we must, with and for Christ.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;!-- Start Bravenet.com Service Code --&gt;
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That Satan is an equal to God able to frustrate and foil God’s plan.&lt;br /&gt;2.  That God is directly blameworthy for the evil that we suffer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When we ask, “What is going on?!”,  we need to know, we have a real enemy, with real power and should not be surprised.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1Pe 4:12  Dear friends, do not be surprised at the painful trial you are suffering,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Satan is afforded a degree of limited freedom to carry out his predictable malicious intent which is designed to destroy the work of God, specifically the sanctifying work of the Spirit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jesus Prayer is John 17:17  Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth.&lt;br /&gt;Satan’s prayer is Job 1:11  But stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God’s response to Satan is Job 1:12 The LORD said to Satan, "Very well, then, everything he has is in your hands, but on the man himself do not lay a finger." &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Every human being suffers from this freedom that Satan enjoys, but His time is limited.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Re 12:12  Woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Job was technically right in his response, but hugely, woefully, inadequate, when he said, Job 1:21 and said: “The LORD gave and the LORD has taken away…"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God does not hide behind Satan’s skirts, letting Satan take the blame.  God claims over-all sovereignty but the rest of the book of Job is necessary to point out the huge hole in Job’s simple view of direct sovereignty.  Though Job’s simple answer was technically correct, its insufficiency leads to questioning God’s goodness and justice and blaming God for evil.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is necessary to understand that God allows his believer to experience the malice of Satan for a time in a limited way in order to produce the saints of heaven.  Satan is a hateful bastard whom we are free to abhor with all our hearts, but God is a good loving heavenly father whom we are rightly commanded to love with all our hearts. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God allows Satan a limited degree of sovereignty, letting him to do as he wishes that evil and good may be known. God is perfectly able to predict the results in our lives which are pain and purity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We may respond this way to Satan Ge 50:20 You intended to harm me, but God intended it for good to accomplish what is now being done, the saving of [my soul]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our sanctification is the ongoing work of God saving of our souls and is brought about as we suffer the malice of Satan that God allows for our good.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2Co 12:7 There was given me a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me.&lt;br /&gt;2Co 12: 8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me.&lt;br /&gt;9 But he said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ro 8:28 and we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is much more to say here concerning the sovereignty of man in all of this; how we fit in, what our freedom is and what we are responsible for.  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Do you love the God of the Bible who ordered genocide?&lt;br /&gt;De 20:16 In those towns that the LORD your God is giving you as a special possession, destroy every living thing. 17  You must completely destroy the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites, just as the LORD your God has commanded you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2.  Do you love the God of the Bible who is sovereign over unspeakable suffering?&lt;br /&gt;2Kings 6:24 Some time later, however, King Ben–hadad of Aram mustered his entire army and besieged Samaria. 25  As a result, there was a great famine in the city. The siege lasted so long that a donkey’s head sold for eighty pieces of silver, and a cup of dove’s dung sold for five pieces of silver. 26  One day as the king of Israel was walking along the wall of the city, a woman called to him, “Please help me, my lord the king!”&lt;br /&gt;27  He answered, “If the LORD doesn’t help you, what can I do? I have neither food from the threshing floor nor wine from the press to give you.”&lt;br /&gt;28  But then the king asked, “What is the matter?”  She replied, “This woman said to me: ‘Come on, let's eat your son today, then we will eat my son tomorrow.' 29  So we cooked my son and ate him. Then the next day I said to her, ‘Kill your son so we can eat him,' but she has hidden her son.”&lt;br /&gt;30  When the king heard this, he tore his clothes in despair.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3.  Do you love the God of the Bible who condemns people to eternal judgment and suffering who have never even heard of Jesus?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ac 4:12 Salvation is found in no-one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ro 10:14 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ro 1:18  But God shows his anger from heaven against all sinful, wicked people who suppress the truth by their wickedness.  19   They know the truth about God because he has made it obvious to them.  20  For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities––his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4.  Do you love the God of the Bible who ordained His innocent son to suffer and die to pay for the sins of the world?&lt;br /&gt;Ac 2:23 This man was handed over to you by God’s set purpose and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men, put him to death by nailing him to the cross.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Acts 4: 27  Indeed Herod and Pontius Pilate met together with the Gentiles and the people of Israel in this city to conspire against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed.  28  They did what your power and will had decided beforehand should happen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5.  Do you love the God of the Bible who chooses only a relative few to enjoy the eternal consequences of Christ’s sacrifice.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Mt 22:14 "For many are invited, but few are chosen."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6.  Do you love the God of the Bible who dispenses his mercy exclusively based on his own pleasure?&lt;br /&gt;Isa 46:10  My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ro 9:16  It (Being divinely considered and treated as a child of God)  does not, therefore, depend on man’s desire or effort, but on God’s mercy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7.  Do you love the God of the Bile who sent his son with you in mind to personally redeem you from humanly unstoppable sin and the eternal separation from him that logically follows.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ro 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ep 1:4  Even before he made the world, God loved us and chose us in Christ to be holy and without fault in his eyes. 5  God decided in advance to adopt us into his own family by bringing us to himself through Jesus Christ. This is what he wanted to do, and it gave him great pleasure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jo 5:24 "I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1Jo 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;8.  Do you love the God of the Bible and trust him to manage everything in such a way that he receives recognition as the supreme, righteous, perfect, beautiful One?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because it is the love we have for God that distinguishes a Christian from a humanist.  It is our supreme love for God that distinguishes us from those who have a supreme love for humanity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The difference between being wonderful, funny, big-hearted, loving, loveable people who view God as a means of comforting others,  and actually being in an unbreakable eternal relationship with God… is a supreme love for God - with all heart and soul and mind and strength and yet-unresolved questions.   In doubt, we turn to our experience of his love for us in Christ and  trust in his love.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1Jo 4:16 And so we KNOW and RELY ON the love God has for us. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Real love for others stems from our love for God, not our love of people.     &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1Jo 5:2 This is how we know that we love the children of God: by loving God and carrying out his commands.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1Jo 5:21 Dear children, keep away from anything (including humanism) that might take God’s place in your hearts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Can I say at the end of it all, “God what lands in your court, is a lot of stuff I find gross and disturbing and objectionable, but what lands in my court is a bewildering quantity and quality of love, the experience of which so overwhelms any sense of doubt that I cannot help but love you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; 1Jo 3:  How great is the love the Father has lavished on us, that we (sinners) should be called children of God! 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The right question sounds more like, “How could I possibly give more to mission?” or, “How could I learn to be content with less so that the kingdom may advance more rapidly?” or “Could I eat out less, so I could do more to feed the hungry?”  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those are the right questions.  I’m not sure they are the questions we are asking… yet.  We are asking something more like, “How much do I have to give in order to ease my conscience concerning spending the rest on pleasure, comfort, security and status for myself and those who are an extension of myself, my family?”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After some reflection, here is a glib summary-statement of what quiets my conscience in this matter.  “If it feels good do it.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is God’s advice with our giving toward the poor and the church and I think it can apply across the board. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2Co 9:7 Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This divine mandate establishes a budget priority for God’s people.&lt;br /&gt;As our giving is to be calculated to produce joy and not stress… &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2Co 8:13 Our desire is not that others might be relieved while you are hard pressed, but that there might be equality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;…so all our spending should fall into line behind this priority.  This is a “feeling” issue, but it is a feeling born out of hard facts.  This of course begs for a family budget as an expression of long-term, joy-producing priorities.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The more accurate your budget, the more you will be able to enjoy generosity and meaningful contribution as well as pleasure-spending, within the confines of your income.  A budget is meant to serve you in the production of joy and the reduction of guilt and anxiety.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ac 20:35 It is more blessed to give than to receive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hudson Taylor discovered this and called it his “Spiritual Secret”.  He learned to live with the absolute least, in order to give as much as he could. He found that the more he gave, the more joy he received.  This is how he proved his faith and God’s sufficiency all at once. His story is compelling.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And this is, at least in part, the reward referred to in the verse that precedes the encouragement to give cheerfully: (2Co 9:6)  Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Try this. Take ten minutes (or more depending on the state of your financial records) and calculate what you spend on pure pleasure in a month or a year.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Look at your credit card and bank statement and ask, “What did I spend on myself and my family for pure pleasure?”  These things are not evil, but more joy will be produced when you keep in mind your annual pleasure budget and weigh it against your annual giving budget.  In accordance with true hedonism ask, “What brings maximum joy?”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By this you will discern priorities and see where change is necessary in order to live out joyful submission to God in his continual presence rather than intentionally forgetting him every time you are considering purchasing pleasure and living with a vague sense of remorse and insecurity afterward.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With all the facts in mind and priorities that lie open before the lord, each of us can make unique decisions that maximize our joy in the financial department of our lives.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So the process of how to enjoy when spending looks like this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1.  Analyze &amp; justify before the lord.&lt;br /&gt;Does this square with a budget designed to maximize my joy considering my long-term (eternal) priorities?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2.  Enjoy the planning stage &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3.  Enjoy what you have planned and stop analyzing.(for now)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unexpected expenses and community needs will always produce situational challenges, but even these can be made more joyful if we have left some breathing room in our budget. Knowing these things will come along.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Could my money afford more joy than I am receiving from the pleasure, convenience, security and status I am currently considering?  &lt;br /&gt;Could I be richer toward God?  (Luke 12:21) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Could He receive more glory, the kingdom be further advanced, the church more assuredly built up, treasure more certainly stored where loss does not occur, if I scrutinized and calculated my pleasure spending with the same forethought I use when calculating my offering and charity?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is there a balance between my pleasure spending and my giving that produces in me a shared joy with God and others as opposed to selfish temporary escapism that leaves doubt?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are more questions to ask, but I will stop here for now.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;!-- Start Bravenet.com Service Code --&gt;
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You’ve Decided To Leave The Church  Part II</title><content type='html'>This is an email conversation that I post with permission that stems from the Monday, March 30, 2009 blog entitled, “So! You’ve Decided To Leave The Church”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:40 PM&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In response to your blog about leaving the church.... I didn't feel comfortable writing on the comments... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Wow, those are some harsh words! Where did this come from?  Although I agree with what is written, I can't help but also point out the other side of "leaving a church."  We have left a church that we spent many years at, to come to BCC. We found that the teaching/theology had shifted and we were not in agreement anymore.  I have heard of others who have left previous churches because they felt "worn out" from ministry involvement and didn't know how else to "take a break". For others, their children had friends at other churches and being a mother of teens, I don't blame them for finding any way possible to encourage your children to be fed the word even if it means moving to a new church.  This kind of falls into "finding a church that better meets their needs."  I don't know if I am just too sensitive and that is why I found that blog rather harsh or if maybe it was meant to be a reprimand!  Do you feel it is wrong to leave a church?  If so, how come you explained that [situation regarding a family who left the church] like it was perfectly fine?  Sorry for all the questions.  You can ask ---, I ALWAYS need to understand things thoroughly and completely, it's just my nature.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hey Sue&lt;br /&gt;Great questions!  And I'm glad you ask them.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I have also had to leave churches, as we all do from time to time.&lt;br /&gt;I have always left with either a celebration or a sober talk with the leadership.&lt;br /&gt;I have no problem with people leaving a church because of distance or changing family needs or some shift in church philosophy or teaching.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;My only problem is with people who secretly pull out, without telling a soul so they can test the church to see if it was really loving or not.  People then use their test-results to justify their departure to anyone who will listen. &lt;br /&gt;"That church never really loved me anyway!"&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I don't think this helps anyone.  In my years in ministry I have spent a lot of time and emotional energy tracking down people to do an exit-interview who simply quit after years of attendance without saying a word.  After 10 years of ministry here and having seen my share typical sin patterns showing up here I feel it is time to address some of them.  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;There are a few more to go.  I don't want to be unnecessarily harsh, but in this case when people use the sheep rather than love the sheep, I feel compelled to protect the sheep even if it means being a little harsh.  I say all of this as prevention, with no particular victim in mind.  I say it as I evaluate us after 10 years and before I go on sabbatical.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Let me know what you think, if I'm still being a too harsh...&lt;br /&gt;I hope it could be understood as a passion for the welfare of the people at BCC.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;(Lu 10:29) But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, "And who is my neighbor?" &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Andy, &lt;br /&gt;Thank you for responding so quickly.  Yes, I believe I have a better understanding of your blog now.  As far as harshness, I am just a very sensitive sort ( I prefer to refer to it as my princess nature!) I can't even watch the news without it disturbing my sleep.  I'm sure the majority of people would not have taken the blog the way I understood it.  Thanks for clearing things up.  Susan&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;!-- Start Bravenet.com Service Code --&gt;
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